Josh Spector

Stop Chasing Attention And Start Earning It

Have you ever thought about how much time you spend chasing attention?

All those status updates, tweets, emails to bookers, podcast recordings, YouTube videos, open mic appearances and assorted other comedic activities that you pursue are likely motivated in large part by your desire to get people’s attention.

Chances are, you spend a ton of time chasing attention. But have you ever taken a moment to think about why? And whether that’s actually the best use of your time?

Attention is overrated. And the time you spend chasing it can probably be better spent in other ways.

That’s because just getting somebody to pay attention to you doesn’t necessarily do you any good. Attention only matters if it leads to something – if gets you closer to accomplishing your goals.

In most cases, comics aren’t chasing the right kind of attention – they’re happy to have anybody pay attention to them, regardless of whether or not the people who notice them are likely to be able to help further their career goals or not.

Most comics cast too wide a net when they chase attention.

I’m certainly not suggesting that you shouldn’t use social media, or create videos and podcasts, or pursue stage time, or that there isn’t any value to attention. Rather, I’m suggesting that there’s probably more efficient way to go about it.

What would happen if instead of chasing attention, you concentrated your efforts on earning it?

That may seem like a subtle semantic difference, but it’s not.

The way you earn attention is to provide value and solve problems for people. It’s by being remarkable (as Seth Godin often references). That’s very different than chasing attention.

To earn somebody’s attention, you (or your comedy) have to speak directly to their needs, thoughts, fears, hopes, and experiences. You have to prove that you’ll always care more about them than they do about you. And thus, the bigger a fan they become of what you do, the more important they are to you…and you treat them as such.

Earning somebody’s attention is not easy and it’s certainly more difficult than it is to just chase their attention. But it’s also much more rewarding, valuable, and the way you can build a sustainable long-term fanbase and career.

Just something to think about the next time you’re fretting over your follower count or spamming people to come see your next show.

Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 22: If You Make The Ask, Things Will Happen

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On the “thankful for nothing” episode of the podcast, Jordan Cooper and Chelcie Rice welcome Sarah Kennedy and Sarah Mowrey on the show to discuss the scene in Albuquerque, using different formats to brand self-produced shows, leveraging sponsorships as a mark of credibility and generally how to replace community awareness and marketing of comedy when there’s no full-time club in the area.

In addition, we discuss the basic concepts of running a successful local comedy website/blog, whether asking for e-mail addresses at shows is too pushy, why over-thinking your e-mail marketing efforts leads to non-action and how to truly determine when to pivot your business versus quitting before hitting the ‘tipping point.’

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Links from this episode:

AlbuquerCrack Up
Louisville Comedy
A Special Thing
Young Dumb & Full of Comedy Show
CC Podcast Episode 16: Social Media Is Bullshit
Tribes – Seth Godin [Amazon]
The Tipping Point – Malcolm Gladwell [Amazon]

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Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 21: If You Suck, None Of This Works

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On the “extremely high standard” episode of the podcast, Josh Spector, Jordan Cooper and Chelcie Rice welcome Josh Homer back on the show post-hurricane to give a recap of how comedians in New York City handled the weather disaster, then we proceed to discuss choosing paths that would be most effective for the stage of your career, pure vanity projects, the fake feeling of progress and ultimately how to figure out what “good” is.

In addition, we explore how to leverage daily deal sites such as Groupon for self-produced comedy shows, why customer retention is key, using the platform as research for potential sponsors, and learning how to approach sponsors with the goal of building a long-term relationship over short-term gains.

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Links from this episode:

Podcast Episode 20: Why Would Anyone Read A Book Of Tweets?
Groupon
Living Social
Amazon Local
Ngaio Bealum – Twitter
Louis C.K.’s love letter to New York and ‘Saturday Night Live’ [Hitfix]
4 Things Comedians Should Know About Agents [Connected Comedy]

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4 Things Comedians Should Know About Agents

One of the first questions most comedians ask me is either “How do I find an agent?,” “What does an agent do?,” or “Why isn’t my agent doing anything for me?”

At the root of all these questions is some confusion about exactly how agents work and what their role should be in a comedian’s career. So, I thought I’d share a few basics about the agenting game that will hopefully help answer those questions.

1. There are different kinds of agents for different kinds of tasks.

The first thing to understand is that not all agents bring the same skill sets to the table so the kind of agent you will want may vary depending on what your career goals and needs are at the moment. Among the most common types of agents are Personal Appearance/Booking agents whose job it is to book you live gigs, Theatrical agents who are the ones that will hep you land acting roles and auditions for film and television projects, Commercial agents who can help you get work in commercials, and Literary agents who can help you sell screenplays, books or get hired to write for TV shows.

Typically (though not always) you’ll wind up getting represented by a single agency who will have a team of agents to work with you so that each of these individual needs are covered by the same company. But one thing you’ll want to keep in mind when you’re just starting out and seeking or getting the attention of an agent, is to have a clear understanding of what kind of agent they are and what they’ll be able to help you with. Make sure it matches your goals.

2. Agents only get paid when you get paid.

Any agent that wants to charge you an upfront fee to hire them isn’t a real agent. Keeping that in mind should protect you from a lot of scam artists out there.

True agents only get paid when you get paid – they make a percentage of the income that they help you generate, typically 10% of that income. This is important to understand not only because it can help protect you from getting scammed, but also because it frames the way agents work and how they decide who to sign.

An agent will only represent you if he/she believes that you have the potential to earn money relatively soon – because otherwise they have no way to get paid for the time/effort they put into you. This is one of the biggest misunderstandings I see among comics about what agents are looking for – yes, you need to be talented, but what really will catch their attention is if you’re talented and have a clear path to financial success. There’s lots of talented comics out there that can’t get representation and it’s usually because they have no fanbase, niche, or traction in the business side of comedy.

3. Getting an agent doesn’t mean that you’ve made it.

Another common point of confusion is that many comedians seem to think once they have gotten themselves an agent, that they’ve “made it” and they can sit back and let the agent do their magic while the cash and opportunities roll in. That couldn’t be further from the truth.

In reality, once you get an agent your work is only beginning. A good agent will push you to spend more time/effort on your career, create new opportunities for yourself, and build things that the agent can help you sell. Remember, your agent is only going to get paid if they’re able to monetize something that you do so they’re really going to need you to be “doing” a lot in order to justify the time they’re spending on you.

4. Your agent works for you, not the other way around.

Even though your agent will pressure you to work harder and try to guide you to a financially successful career, it’s important to remember the context of the relationship. When you get an agent, you are hiring them – not the other way around.

Ultimately, it’s your career and your agent works for you (for a fee). That means that you should always be in control of your career and ensuring that it’s headed in the direction you want it to go. It also means that if you feel like your agent isn’t paying attention to you or isn’t working hard enough for you, that you shouldn’t be afraid to leave them and seek out a new agent. Having a bad/lazy agent is worse for you than having no agent at all.

However, if you’re going to dump your agent you should make sure that you’re doing so for the right reasons. You need to be honest with yourself about whether you’re giving the agent enough material and projects to help you with as opposed to just scapegoating your agent for your own laziness.

I’m sure many of you have had interesting experiences with agents in your own career – leave a comment below to let us know what you think other comedians should know about agents…

Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 20: Why Would Anyone Read A Book Of Tweets?

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On the “massive brainstorm” episode of the podcast, Josh Spector, Jordan Cooper and Chelcie Rice discuss getting in the habit of making something, focusing on things that are actionable, shipping a minimum viable product, repurposing content for different mediums and inevitably learning from failure.

In addition, we reflect on the mission and purpose of Connected Comedy, share some podcast stats, highlight community management issues with forums and go on a lengthy brainstorming session for humorous products that includes greeting cards, thank you notes, compilation albums, and comedians reviewing cooking recipes.

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Links from this episode:
Joe O’Hare – Website
The Ten, Make That Nine, Habits of Very Organized People. Make That Ten. – Steve Martin
20 Tips On How To Be A “Successful” Business Or Marketing Guru [Jordan Cooper]
Tiny Letter
Minimum Viable Product [Wikipedia]
The Oatmeal
XKCD
Blubrry – Podcast Stats

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Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 19: No Jokes About Killing Doctors

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On the “chauvinist pig” episode of the podcast, Josh Spector, Jordan Cooper and Chelcie Rice welcome musician/comedian Katie Goodman onto the show to discuss how she produces & promotes her own independent gigs a.k.a. “four walling”, why having a hook helps you get press, how social media has amplified the reach of her fanbase and getting booked for Planned Parenthood fundraisers.

In addition, we speak about misogyny in the comedy industry, why it seems as if women aren’t as aggressive in pursuing opportunities compared to men, whether it’s biological or a product of the environment, whether the bias lies within the industry bookers or the general public as a whole, why being a draw and selling tickets solves all issues – all within the context of Josh Spector’s recent post of the funniest Connected Comedy readers, which featured no women.

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Links from this episode:

The 10 Funniest Connected Comedy Readers
Funny girls: More female comics are taking the stage [NY Daily News]
Broad Comedy
Tina Fey, Amy Poehler to Host 2013 Golden Globe Awards [Hollywood Reporter]
Why Women Aren’t Funny – Christopher Hitchens [Vanity Fair]

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How To Get Thousands Of Fans By Acting Like You Only Need 10

What would you do differently if you only needed 10 true fans to have a successful comedy career?

Probably, a lot. And surprisingly, what you would do would probably be a lot more effective than what you currently do in pursuit of thousands of fans.

Here’s a breakdown of what I think you’d do different and why those differences would likely serve you better than an approach that’s based around trying to attract as many fans as possible.

You’d Think More About Which Potential Fans You Targeted

The first thing I think would change if you only needed 10 fans to succeed is that you would spend more time thinking about who you would target as your potential fans.

When you think you need thousands of fans, it tricks you into believing that your comedy (and marketing) needs to be broad in order to reach the masses. But if you only needed 10 fans, that would probably go out the window and you’d focus your efforts on a much smaller (and more targeted) group of potential fans based on people that you already have a connection with based on shared interests, geographic location, or an existing relationship. The reason for that is because you would inherently know that those people will be easier to convert into your fans than the masses.

Ironically, that focus on targeting a specific niche is also a key to building a larger fanbase.

You’d Pay More Attention To Your 10 Fans

If you only had 10 fans, you’d probably get to know them a LOT better. Most likely, you’d know exactly who they were, what your relationship with each of them was like, how you met them, and what they liked about you and your comedy.

You’d also probably spend a lot of time directly communicating with them about their interests as opposed to just promoting your stuff to them.

On the flipside, chasing thousands of fans gives you an excuse to not really get to know any of them or actually engage with them. Because it’s just not practical to be able to actually pay attention to thousands of people, right? (That’s sarcasm in case you can’t tell)

You’d Work A Lot Harder

Here’s an interesting one: Even though there’s a lot more work involved in gaining thousands of fans, I bet most comics would work harder if they knew it would only take 10 fans for them to have a successful career.

That’s because attracting 10 fans seems so much more doable than the daunting task of attracting thousands. The belief that gaining 10 fans is truly possible would likely motivate you to work harder than you currently do at what might seem like an overwhelming task to build a huge fanbase.

Again, a focus on just attracting 10 fans would wind up helping motivate you as opposed to allowing you to use the bigger challenge as an excuse to be lazy.

You’d Communicate With Your Fans In Different Ways

If all that mattered was having 10 fans, would you still be as obsessed with Twitter, Facebook, and assorted other social media platforms? I love social media as much as the next guy (and a lot more than this guy), but I’m guessing that if all that mattered was having 10 fans, you’d be more likely to communicate with them by email, text, phone, or even in person (seeing your actual fans in the flesh – imagine that!).

Social media is a great tool, but it can also be a great distraction. It’s easy to spend all your time broadcasting to the masses on social media instead of communicating with your actual fans in other ways that are more meaningful. Again, a 10-fan approach to your career might help you remember what really matters.

You’d Care A Lot Less About The “Industry”

Comics’ obsession with agents, managers, bookers, and other industry types is really driven by one thing – it’s perceived as a shortcut to reach the masses. But if you only needed 10 fans to have a successful career, you’d probably care a whole lot less about what the industry gatekeepers think and a whole lot more about what your actual fans think.

While we’re not there quite yet, we’re rapidly moving toward a comedy world where what fans think of you is more important than what the industry thinks of you, so again, I see a 10-fan thought process being very helpful to you in terms of who you try to impress with your your time, effort, and resources.

Your Act Would Be Better

I don’t spend a lot of time talking about the actual art of stand up comedy, but I’m guessing that if you knew your act only had to appeal to 10 people it would be a lot different than if you think it has to appeal to thousands. Too many comics shape their material to fit what they think other people want to see – they do what other successful comics do, or they do what bookers want to see, or they do what they think will get them noticed.

But if you only needed to appeal to 10 people, you’d probably be a lot more likely to do what YOU want to do. And that’s really how you ultimately find your own unique voice, which happens to be the biggest key to actually building a successful career and ultimately a huge fanbase.

Now obviously, all of these thoughts are based on a hypothetical assumption of what would happen in a world where 10 fans is all you need to have a successful career. I know that’s not true.

But I also know that if you actually did follow this approach you would likely wind up with a lot more fans than you currently have.

 

Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 18: When Do You Stop Paying Your Dues?

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On the “there’s still magic in Hollywood” episode of the podcast, Josh Spector, Jordan Cooper, Chelcie Rice and Josh Homer welcome festival organizer and former Last Comic Standing producer Charlie Gerencer of Pygmy Wolf Productions to the show to discuss developing comedy programming for TV, what producers look for when casting for a new project and how the internet has changed much of the process.

In addition, he shares the genesis of the Asheville comedy festival, breaking into the TV business, the importance of networking and working your ass off, why shitty production jobs are a great opportunity and how a killer script is gold in Hollywood. Finally, he dishes the dirt from behind the scenes at Last Comic Standing and settles some comedians’ doubts on the authenticity of the show and selection process.

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Links from this episode:

Laugh Your Asheville Off Comedy Festival
John August – Screenwriting Blog
Microsoft hires CBS’ Nancy Tellem to form new Xbox studio [LA Times]
YouTube to Double Down on Its ‘Channel’ Experiment [Wall Street Journal]

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The 10 Funniest Connected Comedy Readers

Several weeks ago I invited my Free Tips Newsletter subscribers to send me the single funniest thing they ever created and promised that I would choose the 10 funniest submissions and feature them in a post on Connected Comedy. Well, this is that post.

After sifting through the couple hundred submissions I received, I’ve selected the 10 that made me laugh the most – they may not be the best (comedy is subjective after all), but each of these made me laugh and caught my attention because I thought they were clever, unique, and funny.

If you agree, I hope you’ll check out each person’s other stuff online and spread the word about them. And feel free to post a comment letting me know which of these 10 you think is the best.

Here they are…in alphabetical order.

Ron Babcock

Jarret Berenstein

Derik Boik

Ryan Budds

Mick Diflo

Kevin Froleiks

Robert Kitchen

Aaron Kleiber


(NOTE: This is a video that lives on Aaron’s website and he posts as a link – and encourages others to – on people’s Facebook pages to send them birthday wishes)

Matt Knudsen

John Wynn

Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 17: Only You Can Prevent Scolding

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On the “cleansing the palette” episode of the podcast, Jordan Cooper, Chelcie Rice and Josh Homer address feedback from the ‘social media is bullshit’ debate, follow up on the core points comedians should take out of the argument, why you need to focus on concepts not tools, and generally dispel the myth of ‘all you need to do is X’ whether it be online or offline.

In addition, we discuss getting yourself out there, putting yourself in the position to get opportunities, leveraging press for credibility and manufacturing social proof. Finally, Jordan gives the scold to end all scolds which identifies procrastination, laziness and ego as the over-arching theme and root cause of his critical nature towards what comics say and do.

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Links from this episode:
Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 16: Social Media Is Bullshit
Social Media Is Bullshit by BJ Mendelson [Amazon]
People To Know: Chelcie Rice [Diabetes Forecast]
Connected Comedy Podcast Episode 2: Fighting For Cripple Rights

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